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Nick
post May 18 2007, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(RuslanM @ May 17 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]3189[/snapback]
Where exactly it contradicts its own rules?
Yes. You encode for as many digits as you need. For example Nose=01 in our Reference Book but you can use Nose for 17also. (of course you cannot use Nose for two different digits, you have to choose one and stick with it). The thing is that when you fix your Figurative Codes on reflex level you don't even have to use Alphanumeric Code any longer for FCs.
Why you keep saying - NOSE which SHOULD=17. There is no SHOULD here. It can be 01 it can be 17 as I have explained before. You have to choose an image for the digit and stick with it.

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Hi Ruslan, et all,
My understanding is the point of using an alphanumeric code is to encode and decode. If that is the case then there must be CLEAR guidelines to do so. If GMS uses it as a means to identify any image to be used in place of a number then that should be specified.

If consonants are decoded into numbers then that is a guidline which implies that each consonant in a word is decoded to a number. There is a rule stated that only the first 3 consonants are used. It is clear from these guidlines that Nose=17 and that any 2 digit numbers are either a single word containing 2 consonants or 2 single words containing 1 consonant each. This implies that you cannot use a 3 consonant word for a 2 digit number. Again, this assumes that the premise is to encode numbers into consonants. Some of the images/words used in the lessons contradict this guidline. airplane decodes to ai568a1e is assigned to 5? that would be a CLEAR contradiction.

Ruslan,
I would like to hear from you as the creator of the system. Rather than you responding to only specific with short answers, please provide a detailed straight forward response/explanation if one exists as to the . If one does not exist then your thought process when creating the system would help explain this for me.

Ruslan, as my question pertains to my lessons specifically maybe my questions should be moved to the thread specific to lessons so other students can benfit from your response.

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post May 18 2007, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Nick @ May 18 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]3207[/snapback]
Hi Ruslan, et all,
My understanding is the point of using an alphanumeric code is to encode and decode. If that is the case then there must be CLEAR guidelines to do so. If GMS uses it as a means to identify any image to be used in place of a number then that should be specified.

If consonants are decoded into numbers then that is a guidline which implies that each consonant in a word is decoded to a number. There is a rule stated that only the first 3 consonants are used. It is clear from these guidlines that Nose=17 and that any 2 digit numbers are either a single word containing 2 consonants or 2 single words containing 1 consonant each. This implies that you cannot use a 3 consonant word for a 2 digit number. Again, this assumes that the premise is to encode numbers into consonants. Some of the images/words used in the lessons contradict this guidline. airplane decodes to ai568a1e is assigned to 5? that would be a CLEAR contradiction.

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Hi,

"The thing is that when you fix your Figurative Codes on reflex level you don't even have to use Alphanumeric Code any longer for FCs. " - I'm sorry, but what is so difficult to understand about that sentence.

From what I can see numbers 01 thru' 09 use the first consonant and 10 thru' 99 use the first two and numbers 100 thru' 999 - well Ruslan explains that already. I guess if Ruslan used Nosferatu for 01, Refrigerator for 05, or CaChalot for 99 - it'd make no odds if you memorised them to a reflex level.

Of course, you could change 01 thru' 99 to 1 and 2 consonant words - but what's the point because "The thing is that when you fix your Figurative Codes on reflex level you don't even have to use Alphanumeric Code any longer for FCs. "

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post Jul 27 2008, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (RuslanM @ May 17 2007, 09:01 PM) *
Where exactly it contradicts its own rules?

Yes. You encode for as many digits as you need. For example Nose=01 in our Reference Book but you can use Nose for 17also. (of course you cannot use Nose for two different digits, you have to choose one and stick with it). The thing is that when you fix your Figurative Codes on reflex level you don't even have to use Alphanumeric Code any longer for FCs.

Why you keep saying - NOSE which SHOULD=17. There is no SHOULD here. It can be 01 it can be 17 as I have explained before. You have to choose an image for the digit and stick with it.

Hope this helps smile.gif


For intro, i have just joined the course and have a question about the codes. If all figurative codes should be fixed at reflex levels - then theoretically it should not really matter whether the major system is used or any other sytem. Because even with the major system you can come up with real life images and when this gets fixed at reflex level the codes dont have any meaning.

For eg. i have fixed it as follows: if i travel in a car the number plate is 74, if by bus it is 90, if by rail it is 45; give the baby a bath in the tub (19) use a buff (98) for powdering and place a bib (99).

I am sure that we can get real life images using the major system for 000 upto 999 (or is that the real issue?). I really then don't understand why we need to change the codes because at some point the codes cease to be visible. I remember having come across in the forum that we can substitute images if it fits the code.

I have enrolled for the course because of all the positivie testimonials i have come across; but still would like a clarification on the above.

I wanted to post this in the student forum but i am not able to access it.
Thanks in advance


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post Jul 27 2008, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (hkay @ Jul 27 2008, 01:42 PM) *
For intro, i have just joined the course and have a question about the codes. If all figurative codes should be fixed at reflex levels - then theoretically it should not really matter whether the major system is used or any other sytem. Because even with the major system you can come up with real life images and when this gets fixed at reflex level the codes dont have any meaning.

For eg. i have fixed it as follows: if i travel in a car the number plate is 74, if by bus it is 90, if by rail it is 45; give the baby a bath in the tub (19) use a buff (98) for powdering and place a bib (99).

I am sure that we can get real life images using the major system for 000 upto 999 (or is that the real issue?). I really then don't understand why we need to change the codes because at some point the codes cease to be visible. I remember having come across in the forum that we can substitute images if it fits the code.

I have enrolled for the course because of all the positivie testimonials i have come across; but still would like a clarification on the above.

I wanted to post this in the student forum but i am not able to access it.
Thanks in advance

Here is my experience, I have the first 100 FC reflex, so for the rest of 900 I just have to remember that the first three consonants code the number, I can easily create a three digit FC when I need it using the alphanumeric code, just by playing a bit with the letters I need and choosing the first convenient image(no need to think about what buses I take or how to pouder a baby etc.) and I can decode it as easily as reading the word that the image represents because I have the alphanumeric code reflex I just read the number of of it. That is all. You can also use adjectives to make things faster and you will not have problems remembering that the image of a black cactus means "Black CaCtus" and not"CaCTus" for example.

I am sure others will reply, hope this helps.


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post Jul 27 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (hkay @ Jul 27 2008, 06:42 AM) *
For intro, i have just joined the course and have a question about the codes. If all figurative codes should be fixed at reflex levels - then theoretically it should not really matter whether the major system is used or any other sytem. Because even with the major system you can come up with real life images and when this gets fixed at reflex level the codes dont have any meaning.

For eg. i have fixed it as follows: if i travel in a car the number plate is 74, if by bus it is 90, if by rail it is 45; give the baby a bath in the tub (19) use a buff (98) for powdering and place a bib (99).

I am sure that we can get real life images using the major system for 000 upto 999 (or is that the real issue?). I really then don't understand why we need to change the codes because at some point the codes cease to be visible. I remember having come across in the forum that we can substitute images if it fits the code.

I have enrolled for the course because of all the positivie testimonials i have come across; but still would like a clarification on the above.

I wanted to post this in the student forum but i am not able to access it.
Thanks in advance


I have used the major system before also. Speaking for myself, although at reflex level, it doesn't matter what the image is, (in the major system 10=toes, in GMS 10=animal), I found it easier to re-learn my numbers using the GMS codes because that is what the examples in the course use. That way, I don't have to "adapt" the lessons to use different codes. It doesn't take very long to learn the GMS codes anyway. (Especially if you already know the major system ( wink.gif ).
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post Jul 28 2008, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE (hkay @ Jul 27 2008, 06:42 AM) *
For intro, i have just joined the course and have a question about the codes. If all figurative codes should be fixed at reflex levels - then theoretically it should not really matter whether the major system is used or any other sytem. Because even with the major system you can come up with real life images and when this gets fixed at reflex level the codes dont have any meaning.

For eg. i have fixed it as follows: if i travel in a car the number plate is 74, if by bus it is 90, if by rail it is 45; give the baby a bath in the tub (19) use a buff (98) for powdering and place a bib (99).

I am sure that we can get real life images using the major system for 000 upto 999 (or is that the real issue?). I really then don't understand why we need to change the codes because at some point the codes cease to be visible. I remember having come across in the forum that we can substitute images if it fits the code.

I have enrolled for the course because of all the positivie testimonials i have come across; but still would like a clarification on the above.

I wanted to post this in the student forum but i am not able to access it.
Thanks in advance


Do you want Phenomenal Memory?
Have you read instructions from lesson one?
If your system cannot give you the result you want, why do you try to keep it?

http://www.pmemory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2654


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post Jul 28 2008, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (dyonnes @ Jul 27 2008, 10:48 PM) *
I have used the major system before also. Speaking for myself, although at reflex level, it doesn't matter what the image is, (in the major system 10=toes, in GMS 10=animal), I found it easier to re-learn my numbers using the GMS codes because that is what the examples in the course use. That way, I don't have to "adapt" the lessons to use different codes. It doesn't take very long to learn the GMS codes anyway. (Especially if you already know the major system ( wink.gif ).


Thanks for all the replies. Dyonnes, It is very encouraging to know that you have re-learnt the numbers. I shall seriously try too.
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RuslanM,
I will switch over to the pMemory alphanumeric system, but I wonder if it will interfere with the lessons if I change some or many of the images to ones I find easier to visualize and remember.
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QUOTE (Richard @ Aug 8 2006, 12:57 AM) *
Dear Ruslans:

Your site and course are fascinating. The problem is that I have been using another numerical code for memorizing numbers.
i.e.
1 - t,d
2- n
3-m
4- r
5- l
6- j,sh,ch, soft g
7- k,g
8-f,v
9-p,b
0-s,z

I am very comfortable with this code, as I have been using it for years.
Are there any advantages to the GMS numerical code that would make it
better for me to switch to the GMS code?

Thank you,

Richard

This is the lorayne peg method its exactly the same on his course ?
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post Feb 5 2010, 10:56 PM
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It's not something exclusive to Harry Lorrayne. Tony Buzan, Kevin Trudeau and Dr. Bruno Furst all use this system. No idea who came up with it first. There is a certain logic to it, but if you want to do this course you will need to follow the system it uses. Although it still isn't clear to me why one pictonumeric system should be better than any other when the purpose is simply to be able to encode/decode numbers.


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post Feb 18 2010, 02:53 PM
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The Master System is as good as any other alphanummeric code.
ALL world record holders in memorizing numbers (who did 405 digits in 5 minutes, 2080 digits in one hour or over 100,000 digits of pi in a life time) use the Master System.
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